Huh. I didn't know that about your mom. I wonder if she attends church services at jail.

No, I don't think you would. At least not intentionally.

Lawyer.

Are you just trying to get me out of your city, Kate? Is this because I keep insisting that gourmet bagels are a thing?

I was about to say I don't show it off. Then I remembered the Devil suit. Not all but most state and federal prisons have a chaplain or religious education director on the premises who offers some sort of program. It largely depends on funding and the administration's viewpoint on its value.

Yeah. You end up being awkward because you don't want to make the other person more awkward.

I feel no guilt over something that good.

Oh. Yeah. I guess you have seen the cross now. [He often wears it as a necklace under his shirts. She has seen him without a shirt on when he wore the robe after his clothing was ruined by the sewers.] I don't go to mass all the time. Just once a week.

Maybe. Or he has a crush on you. Unless you have a sibling dynamic with him, in which case, please ignore that option.

It's a superior bagel. A bagel which has been enlightened. The next step in bagel evolution.

It's just a part of who I am, I don't feel the need for it to be displayed as more. I also don't wear a Kiss Me, I'm Irish shirt, either. Doesn't mean I'm not Irish, I just don't feel the need to advertise it.

Or that, sure.

It's the same dish. Only more intricate and nuanced.

I'm not offended, I promise. I was just giving an example that came to mind of what I meant. Sorry if it didn't come across like that.

I'm sure you don't.

Those burgers aren't balanced on the palate.

I'm not sick of you. I've just been told by other people that I ramble when I'm tired. I'm not even trying to argue, just trying to make sure my point is clear. I've tried to stop myself and recognize when I'm doing it since then. ... I've never thought about the rest of what you said, but there might be some truth to it. A more sensitive touch that you can't ignore is more like what I experience. Just everywhere all the time.

... I'm an asshole, Kate. I don't know if I could give it up for anyone. [He clearly couldn't for Foggy. Would Foggy want him to now though, in a state where Fisk is in charge? What about if he had a kid? Jack Murdock died for his morals. Matt respects that. It also left him alone at 9 in the world.]

Ha. Kirsten has a roasted corn recipe that involves hot chips as part of the coating. Well, her aunt does. I remind her that it's not hers, it's her aunt's. But she'd do the challenge with you. She drinks chilis for breakfast. My stomach can't.

Only you would come up with the Nipple Bandit. If that becomes a thing, I'm blaming you.

... no. I have a lot of respect for Captain America. Resisting the law when it's unjust? That's part of everyone's civic duty, but some are in a better position to follow through on it than others.

[Matt has SO MUCH respect for Cap. Both Caps. He's not a fanboy like Kate in general, but he will 100% geek out on Steve and Sam. He would follow their ideology of resist as a form of civic engagement and has found it inspirational.]

Kirsten is beyond amazing. It's not my story to tell, but you should hear from her about her life story sometime. Plus she has a way of listening that few do. She hears what most don't. ... she's given me more chances than I deserve. If I'm ever not around? She's your contact.

I don't seek out guilt anymore than I seek out tattoos. [A beat.] Do you have them? I wasn't insulting those that do if you have.

Just that I get Clint's view. On why he left. Might be an asshole to his family, by following his duty.

She did. She believes in the mission. Wouldn't be taking a pay cut otherwise.

It's a bit obvious, but from what little I know of tattoos, I think it's more what it means to you? An idea might be old, but an artist can make it new. It's more what you want on your body forever. I say this, only from having talks with clients to get them comfortable with me but also genuinely finding their perspective interesting.

[There is a long moment of silence. Matt wants this for Kate. For himself. To have it all. His history, though? He respects Kate too much to lie to her.] I don't know anyone who manages both. Well. Minus Danny and Colleen, who are both doing the same thing.

Danny's a goddamn unicorn who punched a dragon in the heart while living in Brigadoon, though.

[No, Matt's not letting him forget that shit.]

You're important, too. You care and have money.