Whether you wear a bra or not is up to you. I wouldn't recommend wearing something that would result in flashing people unless it's a place that welcomes that, but one doesn't need to wear a bra to avoid going bare-chested. I just don't give a shit what people think, Kate. I realize I'm in the minority, but poking at different angles won't change my answer. I think there's a level of hygiene and personal boundaries to consider, in that I don't think either men or women should wander around everywhere naked. I also don't think they need to cover themselves in uncomfortable attire to not be naked. Both sentiments can coexist.
I'll take neither. I'm not going to welcome and applaud dumb just because it's not as bad as something else.
You realize that I'm messing with you, don't you? But I appreciate the effort you put on your arguments, Counselor. [A beat.] I'm just glad that in our work of line, women vigilantes do not actually fall for the pressure of some of the fanarts I've seen online. Or how some people expect us to wear the things they've seen in stuff like comic books.
Making dumb people famous is probably one of the things that got us in this mess, anyway.
Why is it so hard to let other people look after you?
I sometimes miss my first outfit. Just the black shirt and pants. It was a lot more comfortable. Then again, I kept getting more easily injured, so. Trade off.
Probably. People aren't thinking too critically these days.
... I don't know. I'm used to looking after myself. I've gotten good at it.
Probably better for the summer but not so much for the ribs. Or stabbing. Or pretty much anything. [She considers that.] It's probably a little late for me to start wearing a mask now, but maybe I could have some improves done to my outfit.
It's kinda sad, but maybe with the consequences of voting someone like Fisk people will start to understand.
Just because you're used to it that doesn't mean its good. Just -- You need to let people in, Matt.
Who did do your suit? If it's not a secret. Are they able to create something more protective?
I'd like to think that, but people have voted the same shithead into office in the past, so. ... I'm sorry. I want to think well of people. I'm just tired.
I let Lucky sleep in my bed once. I don't know how much closer he and I can get after that, Kate.
[She can't help but snort and let out a quiet giggle at his question.] Why would I keep that a secret from you? [Even if the were in the same room he would not be able to see it, but she shakes her head.] Remember the LARPers I told you about? I pay them to make Clints and my matching outfit. So, amazing skills and great fabrics, but not sure they have more professional materials.
Hey, don't apologize. Normally, I'm the same. But... Kinda hard to be optimistic when things keep going to shit.
Dork. [She spat, but there's clear good humor in her voice.] You know what I mean. You gotta let people look after you, too.
Some suit makers prefer their privacy. They don't want the attention from enemies they might get, otherwise. And... while that is sweet of your friends, and I'm sure it's a great design, you really should have something more durable.
Yeah. It's important not to become disillusioned, though. No matter how hard that is.
I let you make me avocado toast. Even if you didn't have fresh lemons, a bit of chopped herbs, maybe some raw red onion to go on top of it. Which I am bringing by when this is over, for you to keep on hand. It won't go to waste.
Well, to be fair, Clint wasn't that big on a new suit. You know, with his whole deal about being 'retired'. But I guess we could do with an upgrade. I definitely need something more appropiate for the summer. But I would't know where to find better material for my guys to make me a good, professional suit. Do you have pointers?
It's always about faith with you, huh?
Okay, got it. You trust me not to poison you and I trust you to do some of my shopping.
I don't know of any, but I could ask the two suit makers I know if they'd be willing to share. I just kind of go in looking like shit and they sigh and make something better for me. I should probably ask more questions, but you know. They haven't killed me yet.
[She can't help but snort at the comment about murdering Matt for his silence.] Hey, do they take commissions? You know that money is not an issue. But like, if that's not cool then any pointers are totally welcome.
For me? [She grows quiet, actually considering the question.] A different kind of faith, I guess. More like... On people.
Solid enough for you to accept visitors if you're sick?
I'll ask. My main guy is local, the other one lives and works out of California. The latter makes suits for a lot of people, so he'd probably be more amenable.
It's very important to have faith in people. Maybe mine has different layers, but it's not all that different from yours.
Oh, that would work for me. Your main guy is obviously pretty awesome and obviously my first choice, but I would't mind flying to Calofornia for the other one. In fact, if you need anything from him you can come along. I have an apartment in L.A.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Hey, doesn't that also kinda align with your beliefs? You know, caring about each other, washing feet, all that stuff. I know I'm not exactly an expert, but you get the sentiment.
I'm sorry, Kate. I am happy to consider your sofa and have a couch-off to suit my needs in the future. You both may compete for the pleasure of my overnight company.
... you thought I was like Frank? ... I need to reevaluate everything about my life right now.
I'm gonna argue that in modern times, question if someone asks you to wash any part of them for the sake of religion.
... [Did Matt realize what he just said? Kate can't help but clear her throat, taking a deep breath as she tries to vanish the mental images her friend just conjured into her head.
Fuck. She's a horrible friend.] Good. Good, I'll be happy to give you my sofa. I'm sorry the guest room is not up to your standards.
Hey! In my defense? You had beaten a guy to pulp and you were using your Batman voice. It was a very macho bullshit vibe.
Oh, I'll take anyone who favors all that washing, I'm just not big on focusing that much on feet. [Might as well give him a taste of his own medicine.] And there's nothing wrong with bringing religion in. I never got any complaints when I got down on my knees to worship something.
Hey, I don't assume people have guest rooms. My apartment doesn't. [Did Jen's? Matt had just spent the night in her bedroom, which doesn't seem at all appropriate to focus on now.]
I don't just run around killing everyone.
... I really hope you don't call it worship. That seems a bit overkill.
Well, mine doesn't but mom's does. And the one in L.A and the one in London does too.
I didn't say you did. And you know what I meant. I never thought Daredevil was the Punisher. [She goes quiet briefly, looking for the right words.] You were just... Kinda intimidating. For five minutes.
I've never really had a need for a guest room, so I guess I don't mind. Anytime I haven't shared a bed I've just let someone take mine while I crashed on the couch. It's not like I have a lot of friends to visit.
Intimidating I don't mind. Well. Unless there are kids. I try not to be then.
Matt, you're amazing with kids. But honestly, I liked you from the very first day. You just can be... A little impactful the first time.
.... [It's a little shocking. For a moment she thought he would be clutching his rosary. But nope. Matt is treating her exactly like she wanted to. Like an adult.] Are you actually shaming me over the dicks I've sucked? Fine! Fine, why don't you give me tips then?
No, I mean. You not having more friends. Friends that stay over.
Do you want kids of your own? [She wonders if she should have asked if Heather and him discussed it, instead. It feels kinda wrong leaving her out of that conversation.] Really? What did you think?
Okay... But what else? What do you think guys like to hear instead?
I have a lot of friends. They just don't come over. [Matt is excellent at charming people, at having people he knows everywhere he goes to chat with. Yet there's a firm boundary from letting them get too close. Only a handful of close friends have ever been to his apartment - though he's had many one night stands.]
I'd love to have kids. Maybe not a huge stereotypical Irish Catholic family, but one or two sounds nice. You? And when I first met you, I thought you were eager, but that you cared about doing Hawkeye's name proud.
Guys aren't all the same. I'd suggest asking what they want to hear.
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Date: 2025-04-21 01:04 pm (UTC)I'll take neither. I'm not going to welcome and applaud dumb just because it's not as bad as something else.
I'm fine. I don't get sick often.
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Date: 2025-04-21 01:12 pm (UTC)Making dumb people famous is probably one of the things that got us in this mess, anyway.
Why is it so hard to let other people look after you?
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Date: 2025-04-21 01:48 pm (UTC)Probably. People aren't thinking too critically these days.
... I don't know. I'm used to looking after myself. I've gotten good at it.
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Date: 2025-04-21 02:13 pm (UTC)It's kinda sad, but maybe with the consequences of voting someone like Fisk people will start to understand.
Just because you're used to it that doesn't mean its good. Just -- You need to let people in, Matt.
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Date: 2025-04-21 03:01 pm (UTC)I'd like to think that, but people have voted the same shithead into office in the past, so. ... I'm sorry. I want to think well of people. I'm just tired.
I let Lucky sleep in my bed once. I don't know how much closer he and I can get after that, Kate.
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Date: 2025-04-21 03:17 pm (UTC)Hey, don't apologize. Normally, I'm the same. But... Kinda hard to be optimistic when things keep going to shit.
Dork. [She spat, but there's clear good humor in her voice.] You know what I mean. You gotta let people look after you, too.
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Date: 2025-04-21 03:27 pm (UTC)Yeah. It's important not to become disillusioned, though. No matter how hard that is.
I let you make me avocado toast. Even if you didn't have fresh lemons, a bit of chopped herbs, maybe some raw red onion to go on top of it. Which I am bringing by when this is over, for you to keep on hand. It won't go to waste.
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Date: 2025-04-21 03:36 pm (UTC)It's always about faith with you, huh?
Okay, got it. You trust me not to poison you and I trust you to do some of my shopping.
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Date: 2025-04-21 03:59 pm (UTC)Yeah. It is. What's it about with you?
That sounds like a solid relationship to me.
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Date: 2025-04-21 04:51 pm (UTC)For me? [She grows quiet, actually considering the question.] A different kind of faith, I guess. More like... On people.
Solid enough for you to accept visitors if you're sick?
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Date: 2025-04-21 05:08 pm (UTC)It's very important to have faith in people. Maybe mine has different layers, but it's not all that different from yours.
I see what you did there.
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Date: 2025-04-21 05:20 pm (UTC)Yeah, that's what I thought.
Hey, doesn't that also kinda align with your beliefs? You know, caring about each other, washing feet, all that stuff. I know I'm not exactly an expert, but you get the sentiment.
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Date: 2025-04-21 05:41 pm (UTC)We're gonna get through this.
I think washing feet has become more of a kink these days. At least when someone else does it.
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Date: 2025-04-21 05:57 pm (UTC)We are. We're not alone.
Eeeew, why did you have to go that way, Matt? Is it really the first thing that came to mind for you? I'm never checking out your search history!
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:01 pm (UTC)We're not, no.
You brought up feet washing first. You started this dark path, you can change it.
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:09 pm (UTC)You know, I'm really glad we started working together. When we first met I thought you were more like... Like Frank, if that makes sense?
Uh, no? Pretty sure that the Bible came up with that. Are you gonna argue with the Bible, Matt? Pretty sure that revokes your catholic card.
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:24 pm (UTC)... you thought I was like Frank? ... I need to reevaluate everything about my life right now.
I'm gonna argue that in modern times, question if someone asks you to wash any part of them for the sake of religion.
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:31 pm (UTC)Fuck. She's a horrible friend.] Good. Good, I'll be happy to give you my sofa. I'm sorry the guest room is not up to your standards.
Hey! In my defense? You had beaten a guy to pulp and you were using your Batman voice. It was a very macho bullshit vibe.
Oh, I'll take anyone who favors all that washing, I'm just not big on focusing that much on feet. [Might as well give him a taste of his own medicine.] And there's nothing wrong with bringing religion in. I never got any complaints when I got down on my knees to worship something.
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:41 pm (UTC)I don't just run around killing everyone.
... I really hope you don't call it worship. That seems a bit overkill.
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Date: 2025-04-21 06:52 pm (UTC)I didn't say you did. And you know what I meant. I never thought Daredevil was the Punisher. [She goes quiet briefly, looking for the right words.] You were just... Kinda intimidating. For five minutes.
Oh, come on! Some guys love that shit!
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Date: 2025-04-21 07:22 pm (UTC)Intimidating I don't mind. Well. Unless there are kids. I try not to be then.
Are those really guys you want to blow, though?
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Date: 2025-04-21 07:29 pm (UTC)Matt, you're amazing with kids. But honestly, I liked you from the very first day. You just can be... A little impactful the first time.
.... [It's a little shocking. For a moment she thought he would be clutching his rosary. But nope. Matt is treating her exactly like she wanted to. Like an adult.] Are you actually shaming me over the dicks I've sucked? Fine! Fine, why don't you give me tips then?
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Date: 2025-04-21 07:48 pm (UTC)I love kids. They're hilarious. And I liked you too when we met.
Don't date guys who think any part of themselves should be worshipped?
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Date: 2025-04-21 07:55 pm (UTC)Do you want kids of your own? [She wonders if she should have asked if Heather and him discussed it, instead. It feels kinda wrong leaving her out of that conversation.] Really? What did you think?
Okay... But what else? What do you think guys like to hear instead?
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Date: 2025-04-21 08:02 pm (UTC)I'd love to have kids. Maybe not a huge stereotypical Irish Catholic family, but one or two sounds nice. You? And when I first met you, I thought you were eager, but that you cared about doing Hawkeye's name proud.
Guys aren't all the same. I'd suggest asking what they want to hear.
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